Simply Enough

Like healthy boundaries in relationships, healthy boundaries within the spaces in our homes can create a sense of organization and peace. 

Decluttering begins with your values and your identity, which requires emotional and mental energy. Take a listen to my conversation with organization expert Amy Slanker Smith, of Simply Enough, and take charge of your home and life. 

Amy shares her tools to help all of us spend more time with family, not stuff. Her mission is to help busy women free themselves from clutter, create an organized home, and save hours in their day.

Main points: 

• Commit to an identity as an organized person. 
• Consider your values; filter everything through those values, including your possessions. Only keep physical items that fit within the boundary of what you decided is important to you. 
• Declutter BEFORE attempting to organize. 

Links 

• Join Kelly's Group Coaching Program
• Amy Slanker Smith,  Simply Enough. Try the Simply Enough 5 Day Declutter Challenge.

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Transcript

KELLY: 0:02

Welcome to the Live a Vibrant Life podcast..Today I have Amy Slanker Smith from Simply Enough. Amy, I discovered you through another podcast. A friend of mine, Jen, had you on. I'm so glad you're here Since I was a little child I have loved to organize. My favorite thing to do with my dollhouses was to put everything in order. I d putting my crayons in order. Is that a similar story for you?Tell me a little bit about yourself.

AMY: 0:25

Yeah, I I have a friend who commented once on my Facebook page, she was my first client I would help her clean her room and I would make her bed when I went to her house and she always had to do dishes and she hated doing dishes. I'd help her do the dishes and So I think it's something that was certainly a part of my family of origin and my upbringing You didn't go out for the weekend unless you cleaned up your room. And just the idea of order and neatness is always something that it's certainly went with me into college. I'm sure that my college roommates had a love hate relationship with my, my desire for organization. And it certainly followed me, into my marriage. Something that, you know, my husband came along to. And it's very common that husbands and wives don't have exactly, you know, the same personality, but we rub off on each other in a good way. So, so yeah, I think it was always kind of a part of, a part of me in, in different ways.

KELLY: 1:23

Yeah. And then it becoming something that you do professionally.

AMY: 1:26

It, it is, and you know, the thing that I would say about what I do professionally now versus that person, that organized person I was all those years is that I had kind of this moment where I realized that if I just owned less stuff, it'd be a whole lot easier to be organized. And so there was a time in my, in my early career where I thought I wanted to be a professional organizer. I was off doing the corporate thing and I thought this is something I really want to do. I've always wanted to be a professional organizer because, well, as we just explained, it was kind of a part of who I was. But what I realized in that 20 years of Doing the corporate thing and then having a family is that it was a very going to be a very different business when I started it than what I really thought it was supposed to be. I came to a very different understanding of it's not about bending stuff up into neat little boxes or pretending we live in the pottery barn catalog because we don't. It's really about the volume of stuff. When you reduce the volume, spaces have a way of organizing themselves.

KELLY: 2:37

that's probably how you came up with simply enough?

AMY: 2:39

It is. It's a hundred percent.

KELLY: 2:41

Yeah. Right. That's enough. Yeah. It's enough. I remember, when I was younger, I went to a church and the pastor's sermon was, if you need boxes for your stuff, you might have too much stuff. And I was no, I love my boxes. I love my labels. So yeah, I love the idea of simply enough. I think part of getting older, we start to maybe. And I think it's really important to understand that a little better to write. I've read things that say your thirties, you kind of accumulate, and then in your fifties, you start to

AMY: 3:04

right. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it does seem to be a very sort of generational thing that we spend, you know, the first half of our life accumulating and the second half trying to get rid of. And I, I do enjoy when I can get in front of a group of maybe younger families, younger moms. And. And encourage them to not here's all the mistakes I made of the accumulating side and I'm on the other side of it now. So if you just don't accumulate in the first place, which I'd love to encourage you to not do so. Yes.

KELLY: 3:36

I love that. Going back to if I could a time machine version of me, then you don't have to buy 75 Barbie dolls. They might be fine with 10. Right. Simply enough. So. I'm an Enneagram certified coach, and part of why I got my certification is the Enneagram transformed how I understood myself and how my family understood each other. Three adult daughters, my husband and I, five different paths of thinking, feeling, and doing life. how has the EnneAgram helped you understand yourself?

AMY: 4:05

Well, I, I think as you and I talked the first time I spoke to you, I'm I'm a three wing three. Cause I'm just this raging three. I am just so, so committed to getting it done. Get it done. Doesn't have to be perfect, but just completing and having the systems and add the things to the checklist, even just so I can check them off. Absolutely. Absolutely. That with, with strength finders, where I learned that I have this achiever and this discipline and, and a lot of those things make it such that someone said to me once who was, she was actually a strength finders coach. She said to me, Amy, I don't know that you could have any other job than, than, than this. Even more than just the Enneagram, thinking about one of my strength finders is significance. And I think that's where my desire for impact for other people, I want to have, I want to be known as that person who helped them to just turn our cultural norms upside down. I want them to take what we've been taught that more is more. I want to be this counter cultural person who says, no, less really is more. And here's all the benefits to it. It's your health. It's your wellbeing. It's your relationship, relationships with your finances. It's not just your home. It's so much more. That's the thing that as much as my Enneagram three and my desire to, to complete, and to finish and to, to add value into the world. So I think it's those two together.

KELLY: 5:42

Oh, and that's why I love self awareness tools because we are all so complex and individual. And yet, if we can discover, Hey, this is sort of why this is what drives my behavior. So thank you for sharing that. I love learning about how other people think, feel, and do life. And I think the Enneagram with Strength Finders is such a good match for people who are beginning to grow in their self awareness. I love your Facebook and, one of the things I discovered I love that you give really practical small little bites. I, you know, call them little tidbits and little tools, but it's enough that you can absorb and do something with it. Right. I'm sure you have so much inside of you that you want to share, but being able to just narrow it down. And so one of the first things I discovered when I wanted to have you on is my program has the seasonal sprints and the one coming up in the spring is creating a home you love coming home to. The center of that is really finding our own values. What are the values for me? Because I'm this home I'm coming home to is first myself. And then what are the values for my home? You have a different way of saying that. And that is creating sort of a boundary with your possessions. Could you just tell me a little bit about that idea and how you see it in a practical way? I looked out.

AMY: 6:48

Yeah, so taking a step back in terms of how you see life and see your home. I see my home. I see my calendar. I see how I use my resources, around these five values, which are faith, family, friends, health, and generosity. So everything goes through that filter first, including my possessions. To answer your real question about the boundaries is what are the thing, the things I'm going to keep in my home that within in a boundary in a physical sense, but also in a sense of does it fit within the boundary of what I said is important to me? A friend of mine, Emily McDermott, uses this concept called artificial boundaries. And so just because we have room to keep, you know, six coats doesn't mean it's a good idea to own six coats or that we need to have six coats, maybe a little empty space in there. That's what actually margins, what creates the organization margin is what makes it attainable. And so Applying that to literally any category in your house, three shelves of coffee mugs, just because you have room for three shelves of coffee mugs, doesn't mean it's a good idea to keep that. Apply that to your kids toys. Children are more creative with these constraints. So having fewer toys, they'll actually be more creative with the toys that they own, and they're more ly to play with them longer. These boundaries are actually healthy. We always hear about having healthy boundaries, in relationships, those are important, but establishing and respecting boundaries within our home is, it's just a game changer from an organizational perspective. Because having that empty space that you've created with the margin is what gives your eyes a place to rest. I come into my home and I can see to the back of a bookshelf. I'm picturing my family room right now. I'm picturing what it also used to look with all the books that it used to hold and it looked organized and it looked decorative, but this is all a part of that transformation that I made and now having just one or two items on a shelf. It's not about the scarcity or the minimalism, it's really about just that this creates such a peaceful space that I can come home to. So many people I talk to will say that they walk into their homes, It's a gut punch. Was working with a, with a couple and, I had a client tell me, when he walked into his, his home It's a gut punch. And sure enough, when they showed me what the foyer looks and all the coats and the backpacks and the shoes, and it was not a welcoming, it certainly wasn't an organized space to come home to.

KELLY: 9:30

You were talking about closets and if they're so full, it's incredibly hard to put things away.

AMY: 9:35

Yeah. Yeah. And there's no one has a laundry problem. They have a too much clothing problem. So when someone comes to me with a laundry problem, it's usually because they're digging through a basket of clean laundry because it's not comfortable to open the drawers. It's not cut. There's no space to put the existing clean laundry away. So it's always. It's, it's always a too much stuff problem as opposed to an organizational problem.

KELLY: 10:02

And I would affirm that having just spent two weeks at an Airbnb in North Carolina. I'm from New Hampshire and we didn't live there. So there was plenty of space for all of our things. I've heard this before, make your own home a five star Airbnb. That starts with sort of some boundaries. I'm going to maybe have fewer coats because they all fit right now, but they get shoved in. And even something as simple as rotating can help you. If maybe there's 10 cups each season I put the rest away. Because it is hard when those are our favorite things we end up with people buying them for us for every holiday

AMY: 10:32

Yeah, you know, it's hard sometimes

KELLY: 10:33

to say yes and no to things Decluttering sounds easy, but in reality, there's emotional energy and mental energy. And then you were speaking of a couple where both people have opinions of what should we keep and what should we not keep? but This week where I live we have just had snowstorm after snowstorm after snowstorm and Because my husband and I have done a lot of work and trying to keep our garage Empty enough that both cars and other things fit We just scooted our garage can in as the snow is coming. I look on your Facebook and you're talking about that! So I'd love to hear a little bit about well, what is the easy way to declutter and why do we do it?

AMY: 11:11

Declutter first, organize second is the first piece of advice. In terms of why am I so passionate about bringing the volume down? Why, why do we do it? I think, it saves us money. I think it makes sure that we can find the things that we're looking for. I think it means that we can properly protect and store two cars during a snowstorm instead of a whole bunch of stuff that's probably worth a fraction of what our cars are worth. It helps us create real priorities for the things that we're going to own based on the things that we use. So I think we have a very one click culture. There is, if you can't find something, you can one click it and, owning duplicates doesn't actually solve the problem. I, I'm, I think I'm guilty, was guilty of this at a time, you know, you always need a pair of scissors and you can never find. A pair of scissors when you need them, but you know, you own five or six and sometimes More often than not, not sometimes, but when we own fewer of these items, we know exactly where they are. We've given them a home. We've been able to define the spaces in our home. We've been able to say that we have a pair of scissors in the drawer, in the jar upstairs. We have a pair of scissors in the home office and we have a pair of scissors in the master bathroom. And that's a real example in my house. That's the three locations. But the item when there are so many items. It's hard to define where things are going to live because you're, you're more in survival mode. You're more which closet doesn't have much in it right now that I can cannibalize that space for this thing. It's more of a, it, there's less thought and planning that goes into it. And so when I work with folks, I'm always take everything out. Everything and I get the most pushback on this literally just the phone call before you got the most pushback on the idea of Look at it in a different light because You'll see it differently. You'll start to question whether its existence really belongs in your home. Does it belong in that closet or what is the definition of that space? And so, I'm kind of trying to make sure I come back to your question. I think the decluttering piece is you can't get organized without it.

KELLY: 13:42

Yeah,

AMY: 13:44

so that's just the bottom line. You can't get organized without it.

KELLY: 13:47

And a reason why you might want to coach for that is there's attachment to things. People give you it or you paid a lot of money for it and you never used it. I can't remember which book I was reading where they said we keep a lot of our clothes because we how they look in our closet, but we don't actually how they feel on us. And that was a new thought for me. Especially if you ended up buying something, it was a lot of money, you didn't wear it. And now you're noticing, boy, my closet has a lot of things in it. One way we describe it in my coaching program is is your closet your friend? Do you walk in and it's full of things that make you feel good about yourself? Or is it full of things that you feel Oh, why can't I lose weight? Why can't I make better choices? So yeah, you've noticed that as well.

AMY: 14:35

Oh, a hundred percent. There, the, the ideal is that you have one size in your closet and it's your current size. Because the science proves exactly what you said, which is we see clothing that either is a bigger size and we're worried that we're going to become that person again, but we're, but we're not confident enough to remove that stuff. So then there's always this. It's taking you back to feeling bad about the person who used to be that size and who had to buy that clothing. And so therefore I better hold on to it because I might become that person again. And then there's the small size, this too small stuff. And now you feel bad because you, you can't fit in that. You might never fit in it again in none of this. It's helping you to exercise or cook healthy meals or to be the person who you are. And it's all kind of, it's all kind of shifting your, your mindset around, things in a way that you're not that person anymore. If you are someone who wants to lose weight and wants to be healthy or wants to just exercise the clothing of sizes that don't belong to you in your closet are actually getting in your way of doing that work. It's time to say goodbye to who that person used to be and be who you are. And if that identity is, and this is a James clear thing from atomic habits. He's yeah. So the habit that you want to take on, it's not that you want to run a marathon. Because that's just a goal. It's who do you want to be? I'm I want to be someone who's known as cooking healthy meals for my family. I want to be, I want to be a healthy person. And that'll stick a lot longer than, saying I have this goal of, of running a 5k or something that. And the closet goes right along with it. Oh,

KELLY: 16:25

absolutely. Because if we are people who my identity, I want to be someone who loves myself so that I then have the ability to love other people. And if. What's in my closet is making me think anything other than how wonderful yes My body looks different had three children and the energy I used between when they were born and where they are today Created this version of me. There's some great parts about it some parts that are different But I can't go back and change any of it. So accepting what is and then desiring? Okay, I want a home and I love coming home to when my husband and I were younger We had three young children. I remember I would get very obsessive about things folding socks and keeping drawers really neat. And one day he said to me, it'd be so nice when I walked in the back door, there was just sort of this clear path to the counter. And I appreciated his authenticity. You get three kids, you're doing all these things. Wonder if there's any way of all the things you could choose to do. Could you choose this one thing and sort of create a home? I love coming home to this, back door to the kitchen. And so instead of having my energy go in 10, 000 places, it was yeah, dad's coming home. We're going to do 10 minute tidy. I'm just gonna make this one little path.

AMY: 17:38

Yeah. Almost that gut punch that I described, you know, that, that my client was feeling, you know, that was, that was just it that's not what I want to walk home to walk into. I'm okay, well then let's start there. That's the space. Let's, let's start here in that space, much you just did, which is brilliant.

KELLY: 17:56

And again, just going back to the values, what is important and okay, and we have a limit to our energy. We cannot do everything, but let's start here and see sometimes just having this clear path from the back door to the kitchen, maybe now it extends a little bit. trying to have some grace for ourselves. So one of the things that, I think is very helpful is when big ideas are broken down into small little bites. And what I loved about joining your email list is you had a five day challenge, which was just, here's a simple. tool. And I loved everything about it from what to do with your phone to how long it should last. And I'm hoping that as people listen to this, they're going to want to find you on Facebook and join this five day challenge. But tell me a little bit about it. How could it help somebody who maybe doesn't even have the energy? to join your five day challenge. What of the first steps that you send out? What's your first encouragement to somebody as they want to create this home they love coming home to?

AMY: 18:53

I think it's, I think it's first believe that it's possible. So, you know, you and I talked about, our origin being that we're sort of always these organized people that we kind of had this idea. And, and I think that going back to that identity that we were just talking about around wanting to be a healthy person, I think if it is your goal to be an organized person, then that's the identity you take on. So, so often I will have folks say to me, I'm just not organized. I'm just not an organized person. And. I don't think that's true. I, I used to for many years say, I can't cook. I'm a terrible cook. I did set the stove on fire and the fire truck came and that's a story for another day. But if I had let that limiting belief stay with me. I wouldn't have become this mom who cooks healthy meals for her family. I now share the meal planning. I have some recipes that my family loves that I make. This is a very different person than the person who said, I can't cook. And that's really how I was known. Yeah. Framing that in terms of being an organized person, it's, it's a matter of, of saying this is the identity that I want to take on. I want my family to view me as an organized person. I want to set this example for my kids so that they can learn to declutter and to organize or not to get into this, this situation in the first place. I want to teach my kids how to. manage their money better by me being more organized with my finances, by me being more organized with the things we own. So I know where they are and I'm not just buying them again. And all of that comes back to you. I think the kind of person that you're wanting to be. And so I don't think you have to be by nature. an organized person or an Enneagram three. I think the way that you go about it is going to differ based on your, on your personality. And I don't think there's any one way to do it. I have clients who all operate a little bit differently and just learning that about them and learning. What that motivation is that they have, which is what we call their why, why are you doing this work in the first place? Because that's, what's going to make it stick. And if it's a move or if it's a health crisis or it's aging parents, or it's a, you know, a sick child or the desire to homeschool or the desire to travel more, whatever your why is getting really clear on that. Because then. When the going gets hard, because this is, this is a marathon, not a sprint. You still have your eye on the prize. You're but no, this is why. This is why I want to do this. Even though I set the stove on fire, I want to be this person and I didn't let that stop me. And wise, when it comes to decluttering and organizing and you're making a bigger mess before it cleans up, it's the end in mind, having the end in mind and who it is, that person is. You want to be in your why is what really. It's what makes, I think, all the difference. I have a client who sends me photos routinely of, her daughter in Girl Scouts and she leads the Girl Scout, troop now. And she's my why? This is my why, that's what keeps her moving through her, all of the spaces that she's working on. Right. So it's her why.

KELLY: 22:27

And I think many of us get to this place, even if we grew up and we loved, I had a friend you were describing, I would go to her house, her parents would pick me up and drive me there because I loved to clean her room and put everything away, she had a beautiful room. So even if we're intuitively that way. Life happens when I had three kids under the age of five. My house was not orderly, right? I had run out of emotional mental energy and I would use my evening energy to kind of put the toys back to create this Play place that they loved coming into instead of saying hey, I'm gonna do that while they're awake and help them learn how to do it And so something as simple as I had heard about a 10 minute tidy of put the timer on for 10 minutes. We're just going to all pick up things and put them back where they belong. Yeah, that made a big difference. I took away some of my resentment that I was the one constantly doing. It gave them the chance to do it. And I think your why matters a lot. My husband's actually a really great cook and he enjoys cooking. I cook most of the time. Don't generally enjoy it, but did the same thing you said, which is I want to eat healthy food. I want to actually have a budget that's responsible. And so I'm going to learn how to meal prep and I'm going to have plans and having those decisions in advance are huge. So if you're creating a home, you love coming home to your why is. You deserve a space that's inviting. You deserve a closet that is your friend. You deserve a home where you can invite people over to sit with you. You deserve spaces where you can be a Girl Scout leader and your things go in a certain place and you're not running around ten minutes before the meeting trying to find it. One of the things from your email challenge that I enjoyed remembering is the value of a landing space. I think many of us, if we had to add up all the minutes of where are the car keys and where's the book report and oh my goodness it's Thursday and they have Jim wear your sneakers, we could really add up thousands and thousands of minutes of our life by not putting things back where they should go. So what's a landing space? How often do we need it? Is it just only for the keys?

AMY: 24:24

Yeah. So I can tell you it's 153 days of your life because that is how long, that's how much of our life we spend looking for lost items. The average person loses nine items a day. I think that study was in the Daily Mail. Nine items a day, sunglasses, phone keys, paperwork, all top the list. And so, yes, it's real. You were, to lose that much of your life is kind of a staggering, idea. So, the importance of a landing spot is, is just that. It is the, where do the things gather that you need to take with you to get out the door in the morning? Where do they land as you're coming back? And, and as you might remember from the email challenge, one of the things I also see, to make this more achievable for people to make that whole five day challenge, which I'm happy to share with you. Later, if anyone is interested in, is just breaking it down. This is 2025 minutes in these five days, you know, you put your phone in airplane mode. It'll be okay. No one needs to reach you for 20 minutes. I promise it will be okay. And you just focus on that task at hand and you practice the act of, I'm going to pick up my coffee mug from the kitchen and I'm going to grab my work bag and I'm going to head out the door that I normally go out. Well, are your keys? Somewhere along the way, or are your keys in a different room? Is your work bag on that path? What is that path that you typically travel and practicing that path to make sure you've set it up for success? Are you putting your shoes on along the way? Is your coat closet along the way? Now, I caveat that with. You can't change muscle memory. So if you are used to going out the front door versus the side door, that's not really going to change unless you change the location of where your car is parked. Right. And so you have to kind of reverse engineer it from the door. that you use. But I had, just in terms of what I think of when I think about habits this, Kelly is, I also think about, a client I have, I tell the story of the pink spoon a lot and people will say to me, yeah, Amy, I could do a small space for five days, but is that really going to make. A difference. what kind of difference is that going to make? And so, one of my clients said to me, she's I'd had it. My daughter always wanted the pink spoon every morning. She wouldn't eat breakfast without the pink spoon. And if I couldn't find the pink spoon, she wouldn't eat breakfast. We wouldn't get out the door without someone crying or someone yelling. They were late for school. They were late for daycare. She was late for work. And so she came home one afternoon and she dumped the silverware drawer and she stripped it down to just what they absolutely needed, including the most important thing, the pink spoon. She's now that I've gotten rid of all the other spoons that we do not need, I can always find the pink spoon. Now that is, it might feel a small thing. Okay, great. It's easier for her to get out the door. It's more efficient and whatnot, but here's what I, what I. I know changed for her is she's not yelling anymore and her daughter, she's not stressed. Her daughter's really happy going to school, their relationship and the way they start off the day is completely different. I mean, all of us have. We had an argument with our kids in the morning and lamented it for the rest of the day. They thankfully get over it in about 10 minutes, but we, that sticks with us as parents, certainly as moms. And so I know one drawer had a huge impact. And so, and that progress that you make in one small space called the progress principle, that fuels you, that motivates you. So that's what. That's what causes you to, okay, now I want to tackle the cups because she always wants the pink cup, it just creates kind of this, this domino effect. And, and that was what I, I, you know, aspired to achieve in the five day challenge was really to get people started and to believe that they could do it and it could make a difference.

KELLY: 28:47

And I think there's nothing more powerful than choosing landing spaces for important things. I think back to when my girls were little, we had one very good brush. It was 50, but it made it easy to brush their hair without any pain. So I actually got a pretty basket and put it on the door and that's where the brush lived. And knowing where important things live is so transformative. Having the bowl for our keys made it so that my kids were never late for high school because the You come in the house and the keys go in that bowl. And I never thought though, until you just said this, how important it is to notice, okay, which door do I go out? Where, you know, do I pass a coat closet? Do I pass a place where my coats can be hung? Or I think about my mom, she brings her coats all the way upstairs. That is. Yeah. And it's fine. She has the time and space to do something that, versus that would be very hard if I was sending my kids up with her. And I know when my kids were young, a lot of people never thought of this, having a spot to put things that are important. And if they bring them up to the room, Oh my goodness, you're just asking for the morning to start in a day away differently than we would want it to. So I think at the core, simply enough says, what's important to you and then make some decisions around that.

AMY: 29:55

Yeah, being intentional about all of your decisions, you know, show me your calendar and I'll show you, show me your calendar, I'll show you your priorities. We might say we have certain values and a lot of, a lot of what I hear from people is I don't have time to do something. And I would did the lion's share of this work when my son was young, when I was, you know, knee deep in the daycare dash and working outside the home 50 or 60 hours a week. But the work was too important to not do it then because I knew I was setting up. I was setting him up to see a better example. I knew I was becoming the kind of mom that I wanted to become. And so, not only do I not believe that people aren't just organized, I do believe that you, I do believe you have the time. And I also think that you can't afford to not shift your time to this focus, even if it's for a season. Because it, you're just, it's paying off in the long game.

KELLY: 31:00

Absolutely. If there's some place that you're noticing, you're always running behind, you're buying multiples. You feel frustrated at dinner every night because you can't find the pink spoon. 25 minutes a day for a few days can create some of that impact that we want. So prioritizing our own life is so important. Sometimes it feels selfish. But I think you agree with me that self care is never selfish and deciding the values of your life and then putting the practices around that is just so important. Well, I'm so glad that we got to spend some time together. Tell me a little bit about how people can find you and learn

AMY: 31:31

more about what you do. So I have a little space on the internet called simply enough. net. And if you're interested in that five day decluttering challenge that, that we've been talking about, it's simply enough. net slash five, the number five days, and that's it. So, I'm happy to connect with folks on Facebook. They can just look up my profile, Amy Slinker Smith, and, either follow or send me a friend request. I do a lot there and I'm on Instagram as well, Simply Enough Amy. So thank you so much.

KELLY: 32:00

And I'll link all that in our show notes, I'm so glad I got to meet you and I really look forward to continuing to connect. And I hope that our conversation today helps you make the decisions that help you live a vibrant life. I'll talk to you soon

32:14

thank you for joining the Live a Vibrant Life podcast. I hope our time together encouraged you and will equip you with the tools you need to move into the vibrant life you desire. I'm here to help you live a brave, creative, purpose filled life. And if you'd like to learn more, you can follow me on Instagram or Facebook, Kelly Tibbetts Life Coach, or visit my website, kellytibbetts. com. I look forward to connecting again soon.